Curse

Yuki Juggernaut · Feb 14, 2010, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Eviscerate
Axe Twist
Ear Bite
Executioner's Strike
Flail (was thinking of changing to Frenzy but nah)
Rush
Optional (here I usually put Asuran Scan to boost damage)
Optional (res sig goes here, or a different skill like Vigorous Spirit for more HP healing)

So... yeah. I'm using a zealous axe.

Xsiriss · Feb 14, 2010, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Take body blow instead of axe twsti,you'll rarely get to use it effectively anyway. Rush is highly unnecessary,something like dwarven headbutt is much more useful. Finally,Lion's Comfort is your best friend as it acts as an adrenaline machine as well as self heal. Thus you can pump all your points into strength and axe.

makosi · Feb 14, 2010, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Whirlwind Attack is great even at low Sunspear rank so I'd pop it in. If not, try Cyclone Axe; the recharge is low and it builds adrenaline rapidly.

Yuki Juggernaut · Feb 14, 2010, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by makosi

Whirlwind Attack is great even at low Sunspear rank so I'd pop it in. If not, try Cyclone Axe; the recharge is low and it builds adrenaline rapidly.

I usually aim for single-target attacks. I don't like using AoE attacks.

Syntheticfibers · Feb 14, 2010, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by Yuki Juggernaut

I usually aim for single-target attacks. I don't like using AoE attacks.

There's ya problem.
AoE>single target in pve almost all the time.

Yuki Juggernaut · Feb 14, 2010, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by Syntheticfibers

There's ya problem.
AoE>single target in pve almost all the time.

I usually find single-target attacks more useful. Not that I can say it's the end-all solution; sometimes I don't deal as much damage as I want to because no AoE. I might pack an AoE attack but no more than 1.

vBeryl · Feb 14, 2010, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Go W/D if you really want more selfheals, monk skills will drain your energy fast, moreso with a zealous axe will leave you at only +1 energy regen, and that may leave you vunerable at times.

Reverend Dr · Feb 14, 2010, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by Syntheticfibers

There's ya problem.
AoE>single target in pve almost all the time.

Except on a warrior. Bringing one AoE attack is rather lackluster when warriors can easily and quickly dispatch a single target. Let warriors kill single targets fast, let casters do the AoE damage. Its not that whirlwind is bad on a warrior, its that you can't compete with caster AoE.

About the only exceptions to this are the Earthshaker bar and Whirlwind + Hundred blades.

While I have made my feelings about flail known long ago, anyone that says to bring flail with no switch stance (in your case rush) is setting themselves up to be worthless.

Lion's comfort is also a bad skill. Everyone seems to ignore that it costs an adrenaline to use, so rather than gaining adrenaline it is normally a net gain of zero except that in the time that you take to use it, you are neither attacking nor moving to your next target.

Axe Twist and Ear Bite don't really do all that much.

But all in all you seem to have the right attitude that warriors are about taking down individual targets very quickly.

makosi · Feb 14, 2010, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Using Cyclone Axe or Whirlwind Attack isn't so much for the AoE (although it's nice, especially with Splinter Weapon) but for the rapid adrenaline gain. It lets you throw more Eviscerates around.

**Marty Silverblade** · Feb 14, 2010, 09:04 PM // 21:04

If you want something to pump adrenaline, you're probably better off with FGJ, since you don't always know that mobs will be big and ball up decently enough to use AoE attacks.

Tenebrae · Feb 14, 2010, 09:50 PM // 21:50

Yeh. FGJ with Enduring Harmony is great and or Asuran Scan , thats a must if you want big numbers.

qvtkc · Feb 15, 2010, 03:48 PM // 15:48

I get headache.

AoE > PvE not because it hits more people or because you get adrenaline. It's because DPS > PvE. It doesn't really matter who you hit since once you decrease the total health of the enemy group to 0 you won the battle, and enemy heal doesn't add up to much anyway. A Whirlwind Attack that hits two enemies is worth about as much as an Executioner's Strike, but costs less.

The Mad Addict · Feb 15, 2010, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Seriously warrior aoe does no damage just take a Dismember/Evis > Executioners/Body Blow > Agonizing and destroy single targets and just call out whoever you are attacking kill 1 by 1 quick kills don't bother with all the other crap.

qvtkc · Feb 16, 2010, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Originally Posted by The Mad Addict

Seriously warrior aoe does no damage just take a Dismember/Evis > Executioners/Body Blow > Agonizing and destroy single targets and just call out whoever you are attacking kill 1 by 1 quick kills don't bother with all the other crap.

You are incorrect, Whirlwind Attack definitely does more damage than Executioner's Strike. Sure it feels good to put down one target fast, but the real target should be to finish the battle fast, and AoE helps you do that.

Chthon · Feb 16, 2010, 06:23 PM // 18:23

You must learn to use AoE. Until you do, all of your builds will suck.

Also, axe is pretty worthless. I'm only aware of 1 axe build that's provisionally on par with the best sword and hammer builds, and that's ONLY the case if your teammates bring certain skills to synergize with you.

Yuki Juggernaut · Feb 16, 2010, 07:09 PM // 19:09

@Chthon:
AoE Attacks. Single-target attacks. They both achieve the same effect at the end of the day. If you have good hero builds, it won't matter which one you use.

maxxfury · Feb 16, 2010, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by Yuki Juggernaut

AoE Attacks. Single-target attacks. They both achieve the same effect at the end of the day. If you have good hero builds, it won't matter which one you use.

Using heroes as a crutch for crap isnt a good way to develop your bar..everyone knows you can run an empty bar with your heroes and win most of pve...so its not a valid point really... as having a GOOD bar will net you much better returns with the same heros as a crap bar..

Been frontline you will more often than not have multiple foes around you, unless your bad, so deliberately not taking any aoe is a retarded way to lower your dps, less packets= less damage=bad warrior.

Plus WWA is epic..

Yuki Juggernaut · Feb 16, 2010, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by maxxfury

Using heroes as a crutch for crap isnt a good way to develop your bar..everyone knows you can run an empty bar with your heroes and win most of pve...so its not a valid point really... as having a GOOD bar will net you much better returns with the same heros as a crap bar..

Been frontline you will more often than not have multiple foes around you, unless your bad, so deliberately not taking any aoe is a retarded way to lower your dps, less packets= less damage=bad warrior.

Plus WWA is epic..

Being a heavy user of Discord, what choice do I have but to use crap bars? Unless if I start rethinking my whole game, then... meh.

Unless if I'm just being a total retard, half the time at least one meleer charges for the backline.

Karate Jesus · Feb 16, 2010, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by Yuki Juggernaut

Eviscerate
Axe Twist
Ear Bite
Executioner's Strike
Flail (was thinking of changing to Frenzy but nah)
Rush
Optional (here I usually put Asuran Scan to boost damage)
Optional (res sig goes here, or a different skill like Vigorous Spirit for more HP healing)

So... yeah. I'm using a zealous axe.

I prefer AoE in PvE, especially on frontline builds - meaning, WE Scythe, HB Sword, etc, etc. However, it's not bad. I would probably replace Rush with Enraging Charge and I definitely wouldn't use Vigorous Spirit (just because....you could use a PvE skill there) but again, not terrible.

Yuki Juggernaut · Feb 16, 2010, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

I prefer AoE in PvE, especially on frontline builds - meaning, WE Scythe, HB Sword, etc, etc. However, it's not bad. I would probably replace Rush with Enraging Charge and I definitely wouldn't use Vigorous Spirit (just because....you could use a PvE skill there) but again, not terrible.

Meh.

*shrug.

I feel more comfortable, actually, with using single-target attacks. Meh.